WILD REMEDIES PODCAST: EPISODE #21

WILD REMEDIES PODCAST: EPISODE #21

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00:01.23
wildremedies
Sarah Swain I have been looking forward to this interview for a really long time I'm so excited to be chatting with you today. How are you.

00:11.22
Sarah Swain
I am fabulous and yes, this has been a long time coming I feel like we've been planning this for years after many failed attempts. So I'm thrilled to actually be here doing this with you today. So thanks for having me.

00:21.10
wildremedies
Ah.

00:25.88
wildremedies
Yay yeah I know sometimes it's tough. We got a lot of things going on but we we did it. We're here and I'm so excited today to chat with you about sovereignty. It seems like a really big thing with your brand.

00:36.00
Sarah Swain
And. Who.

00:41.47
wildremedies
Which I resonate very deeply with um, it's one of my favorite topics. Actually you know just like breaking 3 free from systems. You know whether that's medical or government corporate even the education system and yeah I don't know for me, it's just something that.

00:55.23
Sarah Swain
And.

01:01.23
wildremedies
Systems have always bothered me in a way like I remember being a kid in school even and like I was like why? Why do we have to be here this whole time like you know I'm falling asleep in class. I can just take the book home and read it and get an a like why do I literally need to be here like why do we have lunch break or like long but like all these things that can't we just condense. It can. We just be here for like 3 hours and then just go home and live our lives. You know, just things like that used to drive me insane. Ah.

01:34.41
Sarah Swain
I can relate huge and I too have been that that person my whole life I'm like this doesn't make any sense and as I got older and I started to kind of vocalize these things then I kind of got slapped with this label of being just. 1 of those millennials that can't accept things for how they operate and the millennials always have to be dissatisfied and you difficult to work with I'm like but but it doesn't make any sense like.

01:57.23
wildremedies
Um.

02:11.57
Sarah Swain
But was me and in the workforce right? and the same questions were going through my mind I was like but why 40 hours a week like why can I not just be done work as a grown ass adult when I'm done my work and the job has been completed or whatever it is and why.

02:12.49
wildremedies
Um.

02:30.82
Sarah Swain
Do I have to ask for permission to take time off as though I'm a a child in a classroom asking to go to the bathroom like it. It just it started to really mess with me when I was in my like late 20 s early 30 s and.

02:43.36
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

02:49.24
Sarah Swain
It This was long before you know Pandemic chaos I was just like what are we doing? Why is everything like this and and my career ah that I had prior to me leaping out and going full time into entrepreneurship was.

02:53.63
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

03:07.25
Sarah Swain
Ah, retail pharmacies you want to talk about a misalignment in my life. Um I saw the the background of you know that that leg of the health care system and I'm like hold on a second like what are we doing here because this kind of feels like this system's in perpetual motion to.

03:07.87
wildremedies
No kidding.

03:26.82
Sarah Swain
Keep people unwell in order to keep this industry alive. So yeah I would say about six seven eight years ago it felt like I was exploding on the inside of feeling so so challenged by the way the world worked. And feeling incredibly imprisoned by it and ah I now have kind of come full circle in that whole experience and understanding that um, all of that was me feeling.

03:48.36
wildremedies
Are you.

04:04.79
Sarah Swain
Physically mentally emotionally energetically spiritually that my sovereignty was under attack and that I didn't feel as though I could be as I wanted to be do what I wanted to do and on what timeline. Um.

04:10.61
wildremedies
E.

04:23.39
Sarah Swain
There was always kind of a parameter around it. It's like you're free ish until you hit this or you're free-ish until you have to have that conversation. You have to you know fulfill this responsibility or you have to report to this person so it kind of felt like I could expand to a certain extent and then there'd be some sort of. Red tape around me that really prevented me from like living and fully understanding like what is the purpose of us even doing this life thing. So I relate I was also that person just started being like um this is weird guys. No one else thinks this is weird that we're doing this. With our life like it's our life as far as we know consciously we get 1 of them. We'll figure the rest out after we leave our skin suit but we get 1 what are we doing and that's where my head goes. That's what that's what fuels me today.

05:03.23
wildremedies
Um, yeah, yeah.

05:21.30
Sarah Swain
Um, but it was a ah culmination of years of feeling very very restricted in the level of experience that I could actually have in my life.

05:31.25
wildremedies
Yeah, absolutely well I mean one of the benefits I'd say of what's happened over the past couple of years is that I think a lot of people are starting to ask those same questions because you know we're seeing this huge exodus from the traditional workforce. And I think people are realizing like okay you know, maybe faced with their own mortality with you know all the fear and stuff that's been pumped out at people for many many months now and you know whether it's fear-driven or just reevaluating what priorities are in in their lives.

05:51.63
Sarah Swain
Ah.

06:03.61
Sarah Swain
Um.

06:10.00
wildremedies
Um, people are looking for for something more and I think in a lot of ways that's kind of pointing towards entrepreneurism which is exciting Both of us are down that path and for me like I can't do it any other way I.

06:17.78
Sarah Swain
The.

06:26.75
wildremedies
I'm just I am completely unemployable I've tried like I've even worked for companies that were you know quote unquote really cool and very Google ask and have the rad office and you know you come into work whenever you want, but it's still like to me it just it felt like a trap and I couldn't do it.

06:44.10
Sarah Swain
Yes, so.

06:46.29
wildremedies
It's crazy and there's so much that we can improve and I think you know you mentioned as as millennials we're kind of like questioning all of these systems and better ways of doing things and this is kind of an opportunity for us to figure that out to just even within our own organizations like.

07:03.61
Sarah Swain
If.

07:05.23
wildremedies
My my companies are everybody's pretty much on contract I will every once in a while bring somebody in as an employee usually to take advantage of a subsidy and it's funny because literally went through this yesterday but my bookkeeper she's like okay so you know we just brought somebody in so that you know we could have her. But most of her salary is or her hourly wages is covered by the subsidy for a first couple of months you know one of the only benefits of like the government in my opinion is being able to take advantage of some of these things so I'm like okay we might as well. Um, but she's like okay well you know. So-and-so so work this day and then there's overtime and there's all of these things and then we have to report to the government and da-da-dada and then you have to give the government all of this money and and I'm just like why is this so complicated like why can't we just like you know, show up do the work. For what's agreed upon and just like move on with our lives like it's just it's just so you know even though we are trying to break free from these systems through you know whether it's entrepreneurism or whatever. There's still it feels like there's still so much heaviness with this government. Overreach into like every aspect ever lies and it's wildly frustrating.

08:22.40
Sarah Swain
I couldn't I couldn't agree more and I'm I'm so so hyperware of this like like you said the last couple of years have really in a backhanded way been beneficial in the context of. People not just opening their eyes to you know Creepy Agendas and things like that but opening their eyes to their own lives and questioning the choices that they're making and and questioning the level of dependence or reliance that they. May have on some of these systems and I think it's been shocking to a lot of people when they've had those honest conversations with themselves about like where am I actually dependent on a system and if if you do an inventory of those things. It could be quite telling. So The the journey of you know, slowly removing ourselves from these systems in order to ah fully embody sovereignty not just sovereignty within because I truly believe that freedom is a mindset but really break free of things that we're just kind of depending on being there all the time in order for us to.

09:29.57
wildremedies
A.

09:39.94
Sarah Swain
Exists in our life and what happens if that thing is removed and the level of government that exists in every single one of these systems if we really zoom out and look they have their hands in everything and. I love watching old movies where you kind of get a glimpse of of what life was like you know a hundred years ago and it is to sit and think about the rapid rate of speed that the government has. Brawled into our lives is horrifying I mean we're like talking 2 or 3 people ago generationally 2 or 3 people ago. We are you know.

10:27.19
wildremedies
Um, me.

10:34.26
Sarah Swain
Outside trying to find our food sources and and cooking meals over campfires while we're you know traveling across the plains and it's It's like how how it in that you know period of time. Has there been so much order and regulations created that when a new generation is born. That's just normal right? And that's the trap that we're all starting to wake up to is that whatever. The last generation. Um either perpetuated unknowingly or ah, pushed forward thinking that it was the right thing to do the next generation's born into it and then we come out saying well that's just how it works and we keep doing this.

11:20.19
wildremedies
He.

11:26.48
Sarah Swain
Generation after Generation. So I I think that the the clause that we feel of the government and just well everything that we do is is starting to rattle so many of us awake that we're recognizing if we continue to play this game. This is going to bleed into the next generation in ways that we won't even be able to Comprehend. There is a very fine line between having order in society and having complete control over society and that's exactly what we're encroaching on right now and um, I'm the type of person where. I I will pay out of pocket for my health care I will ah avoid government subsidies because it's so ridiculous that like all these hoops that you have to jump through be like I'd rather just pay the damn money.

12:03.77
wildremedies
Um, meet me.

12:19.46
Sarah Swain
And not have to deal with all of this red tape like that you're experiencing I'd rather pay to um if I had children at other pay to have them go into an education system and then that's what that breeds the conversation of. Oh well, it must be nice to have money then and that's something that we have also unfortunately normalized is ah the disdain as a society that we have for people who have carved out a financial path forward for themselves.

12:39.16
wildremedies
Um, he he.

12:55.32
Sarah Swain
Do have access to these things instead of asking ourselves. Why doesn't everybody understand how to do this capitalism gets a really bad rap and for for someone who from the perspective of someone who may not fully understand capitalism but has adopted the idea that it's bad.

12:59.51
wildremedies
E.

13:14.90
Sarah Swain
I can understand why they think it is but if we actually Zoom in now going into the education system and we ask ourselves well are we actually set up to succeed in capitalism. The answer is no.

13:29.59
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

13:33.22
Sarah Swain
So We have one system over here preventing us from understanding how to thrive in Capitalism and then we have another system over here benefiting from the fact that people aren't thriving as a result of Capitalism. And then angering and fueling the the anti-capitalism conversation be like see if we didn't have capitalism then everyone would be fine and then cue the the socialism dialogue right? and socialism means more government so all of these things are so wildly connected and in my opinion. Could be entirely wrong on this. We'll never know but in my opinion the answer to all of this is personal sovereignty If if we can understand what we need to do as an individual first and this is this is another difficult thing for people to do because there's so much.

14:15.90
wildremedies
Um e.

14:28.60
Sarah Swain
Anti individualism conversations happening out there because we should be all part of the greater good. We got to do? what's best for the greater good. We literally can't do that as a collective if we are not at our best.

14:29.24
wildremedies
The.

14:45.81
Sarah Swain
If we're not at our best. What are we contributing to the collective So sovereignty has to be the answer in being strong being free being financially free having control over our time and our schedules.

14:46.59
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

15:01.40
Sarah Swain
Having full control over the choices that we make having an abundance of choices to even make because of the type of life that we have created for ourselves think then when you have that type of high vibrational human being that is so. Okay, more than okay on all the fundamental levels. What then can that individual do for the collective and if we all embraced that and and just asked what do I need to do to bolster myself. It's all going to come back to how do I free myself even more if we were to all do that.

15:32.47
wildremedies
He.

15:37.23
Sarah Swain
We would not be in the world that we're in right now we would live in an entirely different dimension in comparison to the state of our world because we have been conditioned to be dependent on the government and this is the narrative that has to flip before the next generation comes and. They get born into well this is just how it works and then it just keeps going the cycle continues.

16:02.12
wildremedies
Um, yeah, it's interesting. You know there's this concept of like being dependent on the government but in actuality.

16:12.20
wildremedies
You know I was having a conversation with my investment advisor a couple of weeks ago and she told me something that just made me absolutely sick and she's like for the average canadian you are basically working for the government. I can't remember how many months out of the year it was but it was it was like at least half at least half of the year you know when you look at income tax and that sort of thing because we are just absolutely taxed to death in Canada it's disgusting you are working for them.

16:46.12
Sarah Swain
Yep.

16:47.83
wildremedies
Right? When really, it's supposed to be the other way around and yet like where is that money going because if it's supposed to be for all of these great programs and whether I mean like we can just even talk about health care which is an absolute dumpster fire in Canada like we have people.

17:05.24
Sarah Swain
What a mess.

17:07.55
wildremedies
Dying waiting for ambulances like you know if you have cancer like good luck. You might get treatment and fight you're dead. Yeah, like it's It's absolutely wild and I mean I think people are starting to wake up to that now because we are in a health epidemic. It has.

17:12.99
Sarah Swain
Yeah, roll the dice.

17:26.78
wildremedies
Nothing to do with the virus. We're full of toxin overloads and stress and all of these things and 2 years of fear and all of these things that are compounding and people do need help and they are finding that they're not able to find it through these you know current systems that we have and so people are looking for for other options but you're right. It takes resources. At this point you know because the things that should be subsidized aren't unfortunately it's not the healthy things for us. So I mean let let's let's talk about solutions. What what steps can people start taking. To start creating some of the sovereignty for themselves and to be able to have the resources in order to you know, make these better decisions.

18:09.52
Sarah Swain
Yeah, for starters I always recommend people do that quick inventory check that I mentioned earlier like go through every fundamental component of your life and ask yourself even just rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 how sovereign am I in this area of my life. So whether that is your health your finances your relationships your physical environment. Um. The way in which things are accessible to you ah food water supplies things of that nature and have an honest conversation with yourself about where you're at because we have been tricked here in Canada to believe that we're free.

18:54.55
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

18:58.39
Sarah Swain
But we're only free within the box that the government says that we're allowed to live in right and when we really start challenging these systems if we're okay if the government were to remove this system. What do I do and and if we don't have the answer to that then we are by definition dependent on that system and. It usually comes back to money and what a person is able to afford or what? Ah what their level of affordability can provide them with as far as the number of choices that are before them and this. Bleeds into the whole trading time for money conversation which is another bloody trap and one that requires a lot of unlearning about what it means to create a livelihood for yourselves and.

19:39.71
wildremedies
Meet a.

19:53.65
Sarah Swain
Goes back into the education system and and what was kind of painted for us as a picture of like what do we get to do when we grow Up. Nobody told me that I was able to create value for people and charge money for it that conversation never existed in. Any of my educational systems whether elementary high school postsecondary. It was always how do you become an ideal employee and I if I look back on the things that I dambled in in in Postsecondary. It was Journalism Political science and business administration and marketing and those were kind of the things. So. It's like my my soul was kind of speaking to me like these things are of of huge interest to you but the system. Told me that in order to be able to do those things for a living then I had to go through these channels in these systems in order to be qualified to be able to do those things and this is where people struggle with and understanding entrepreneurship because they're like yeah but like I'm not qualified. By the system's definition I am not qualified to market my business but I market my business very very well and this is where we have to start challenging hold on a second who created these rules and and who says that I'm good at this or qualified to do this and.

21:06.83
wildremedies
Me.

21:24.98
Sarah Swain
Or I'm not good at this or not qualified to do this? Um, so there's a ah fundamental piece of unlearning systems that has to take place in order for our minds to be open enough to asking ourselves. Okay, well what else is possible for me then if. If I I spent all my life doing this one job or working for this 1 employer or I spent you know 4 6 8 1012 years in postsecondary to be able to do this very specific line of work for the rest of my life and what am I without that who am I without that. What can I contribute what value do I have without these things those are the questions we have to start asking ourselves is well what value do you bring Let's just have the conversation. We're so used to being like okay this is what this employer wants for me. This is the ideal candidate that they are searching for in order to fulfill this this job and then we our brains go into. Okay do I meet those criteria. How do I prove to them that I have the skills and abilities to be able to fulfill this job.

22:34.67
wildremedies
Me.

22:35.11
Sarah Swain
Well enough that they pick me how when have we ever done like a life resume that invites us to ask ourselves. What are our skill sets across the board. What's the experience we have in our life across the board. It doesn't need to make sense for any 1 particular direction just allow yourself to ask yourself what what can you bring to the table that maybe would not have fit on someone's resume. What are the skills you have the abilities. What are the things that you have achieved. What's the knowledge you have what's the wisdom you have what's the evidence you have and just start compiling and this is something that I did in 20162017 I can't remember the year but I can literally remember the day I i. Grabbed a bottle of champagne I went up to my home office I was still in corporate miserable beyond beyond anything and that bleeds into a whole other ah conversation about understanding what success means to me but that's a whole other whole other dialogue. But I sat there and i.

23:34.29
wildremedies
Um, and and.

23:45.91
Sarah Swain
Pop my ball of champag I'm like I'm gonna figure out what the hell I could do with my life because I know that I can't continue on this path right? like I just know that I have no idea what I'm meant to do I just know that it's not this. And I know that it's not going to find another job because that was kind of like my vice. It's like oh this one's making me feel like hell I'm going to go find another one and I sat there and I just brain dumped everything that I'm good at everything that I enjoy everything that lights me up and I just. Laid it all out on sticky notes on a big bristol board and it is like this giant jargon of words none of it made any sense together I'm like okay, cool. So here's all the things that I have and then what I started to do was started to just kind of categorize things and and I went through this kind of like reverse engineering process. Of well what actually can I contribute if it's not in the traditional workforce and by the end of this probably also by the end of my bottle of champagne I was looking at this Bristol Board

24:44.47
wildremedies
It.

24:49.60
Sarah Swain
That showed things like leadership and podcasting and book writing and coaching and empowerment and events and team building and I was like oh ok like all of a sudden things started to get a little bit more clear I was like.

25:02.13
wildremedies
He.

25:05.81
Sarah Swain
I have a lot of skills in these things like there's so many things that I was able to draw from my corporate career that I'm so grateful for that you know, afforded me with those those experiences to build upon those skill sets. So when I finally did muster up the courage to to literally. Bounce out of my 6 figure job with 0 backup plan other than I trust myself that I'm going to figure out what I can do um and I just I focused on those things that were on that bristol board be like okay I know there's something here I have to trust that I can provide value. In these areas to people's lives and help them solve problems and help them. You know experience the transformation that they're looking for help them be able to create the thing that they want to create help them start the thing that they want to start help them achieve the goal that they want to achieve and that's where I i. Was able to recognize what else do I bring to the table overall in my life not just on a resume for someone's job opportunity but collectively and that was five years ago um and that's exactly what I helped people do now is go through that. That same process that I did on my floor with my bottle of champagnes like let's talk about everything that you can bring to the table and figure out what your thing is now that's not to say that everybody's cut out to be an entrepreneur entrepreneurship can be an absolute train wreck for people if we're not prepared for it.

26:31.11
wildremedies
You know.

26:34.25
Sarah Swain
But what it does do is allow people to understand at the very least how to create another stream of income. Even if that means that they're going to stay in their job right? This isn't a a mass exodus from the workforce. Although that is my dream is to see a mass exodus from the workforce and and.

26:38.20
wildremedies
He.

26:49.98
wildremedies
Um.

26:53.30
Sarah Swain
People becoming entrepreneurs doing things on their own terms like that's that's my vision but that's not necessarily right and true for everybody but that doesn't mean that we can't figure out a way to bring in another stream of income because what that income does is provide people with more choices. And those choices could be do I have to live where I'm living or it could be is there another educational system that I could put my child into it could be is there. Another form of healthcare that I can afford for myself or my family. It could be my employer has struck down with another mandate that goes against my value System. Do I have enough of financial cushion right now to be able to take the blow if they were to let me go like that's what money does is provide more choice So our job if if sovereignty is the name of the game.

27:38.89
wildremedies
He.

27:46.89
Sarah Swain
Our job is to figure out how to bring in as many streams of income into our lives as we can in order to be able to afford choice because that's what it all comes down to is people feeling like their backs against the wall. They don't know what to do? They don't feel like they have a choice and then therefore they so. Day in a life that a doesn't light them up. It's not enjoyable if they're not happy. They're probably not healthy if you know they're in an environment that's not conducive to their own spirit. It's probably not going to make for ah a very great life experience given. How many hours of our lives. We spend in our career. Um, so that's that's where I get so lit up is helping people understand like you do have something to bring to the table. We've just never been afforded the opportunity or probably even the thought of asking ourselves. What else can we contribute to the world outside of. The 9 to 5 that we do for a living.

28:43.17
wildremedies
Um, yeah, that's beautiful and I think what people need to realize too is that this is a really empowering and fun process for someone that maybe hasn't taken a hard look At. What are the things that I actually love to do what are things that light me up because it's not just the you know what? what you can provide people that's extremely important obviously because you need to have something that can solve problems in order to have something marketable. Um, but you get to learn about yourself in this process.

29:02.84
Sarah Swain
Yeah.

29:19.79
wildremedies
And move into a space where you're doing something that you actually love like it blows my mind I just my heart breaks for people and I've seen this like you know with our parents' generation. The whole mindset was like you pick a career and you do it. Whether you like it or not for the rest of your life or pretty close to you get to retirement age Now your health is failing because you've been doing something that you fucking hate for the past like 40 years or whatever and then you're questioning. You know you have all of these regrets. And is this really what I should have done you know because how actually far ahead am I because now we have inflation and we have all of this other bullshit that's going on with the government that is just taking Away. People's resources at just an absolutely phenomenal rate right now. So yeah. I I Really hope that you know what we're saying right now and to anybody who's listening who might be struggling right? now you know can just inspire people to just start looking at this process because it's just yeah, it's so empowering it's and it's what we need. In order to start dismantling some of these system.

30:37.44
Sarah Swain
Yes, yeah, the the freer the individuals are the harder it is for systems to exist The the only reason systems exist is because we're reliant on them because their relevance is so high right now because of our reliance on them. So that's the that's the goal.

30:46.84
wildremedies
He.

30:53.57
wildremedies
In here.

30:56.44
Sarah Swain
Remove the level of reliance and and that is obviously it goes without saying there are people who have true dependence on systems and I believe that systems need to be there for those people with true dependence on those systems. Um, but we have created dependence for people that shouldn't have it.

31:04.82
wildremedies
Yeah, yeah.

31:13.40
wildremedies
Um, oh my gosh.

31:16.35
Sarah Swain
And I think um, you know doing what you love is the name of the game and I'm glad you brought that up because I've also seen entrepreneurs create businesses that they hate um for the sake of.

31:29.62
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

31:32.50
Sarah Swain
Of You know, creating ah a different life for themselves or a different stream of income and then they kind of end up back in the same situation they were when they were in the workforce. Ah, um, so how you feel about what you do is so important and if you can. Figure out what you love and figure out how to monetize that then you're winning like you are winning and maybe this is a good time to bring up the whole success conversation because that that was a pivotal aspect of that transformation for me was challenging what success meant And. Society's definition is really bent. Um, you know it's all about. Do you have a good education. Did you get good grades. Did you get a good job. Do you have a mortgage. Do you have a marriage. Do you have a car. Do you have vacation. Do you have you know children. Do you have.

32:07.79
wildremedies
He.

32:25.81
Sarah Swain
Pets Do you have the the recreational home and it's like those are the things that we're taught growing up that if you have these things and it means that you are successful but I had all those things in my early 30 s and I'm like the last thing I felt was successful like I'm like. How could that something that feels so Awful. Be successful. It. It didn't make sense to me. So I I challenged myself with well what?? what if I got to the end of my life whenever that is and I look back on my life. What would have made me say. Damn it like I was I was so successful in my life like I did that right? all of the societal norms like we're not even anywhere remotely close to that conversation with myself these words like time.

33:08.00
wildremedies
Um, me.

33:15.33
wildremedies
Um, maybe.

33:18.97
Sarah Swain
Started roaring up to the forefront if I have more time if I have more control over my time if I got to choose how I spent my time that would make me feel successful if I have more fun in my life that would make me feel successful if I had more choice in my life. Would make me feel successful if I laughed more if I was happier if there was more joy in my life that would make me feel successful if I trusted myself even when things didn't make sense logically to do the thing anyway, that would make me feel successful if I if I had the courage to be able to try things like. That would feel really good if I got to the end of my life me like I I went for it. You know so recognizing that this path that I was on that was on paper successful realizing that in no way shape or form if I got to the end of my life would I have. Been so proud for the successful life that I lived that was pivotal for me and then it it became this kind of puzzle right? That's the fun of entrepreneurship is trying to figure out what all this means and click all the pieces together and solve these issues that are in our way and understand ourselves more. Um, so that we can start making decisions in our lives and businesses that align with those life experiences that we want to have and it's heartbreaking when I see new entrepreneurs because if they don't figure it out in their first week or the first month or the first year um they got discouraged.

34:50.65
wildremedies
Um, in.

34:50.86
Sarah Swain
And my thought process is like even if it took you a decade to figure it out and then you figured it out after a decade and you are now living an entirely different life and you are thriving and your family is thriving. Everyone is well and you're. Happy like would that 10 years of trying to figure it out. Not be the best thing you ever did so that's the that's the game of entrepreneurship though, right? It's like Kenya hang on. Can you keep going when things get hard when things get weird when you feel really challenged.

35:15.74
wildremedies
He.

35:23.91
wildremedies
Um, who said that.

35:29.79
Sarah Swain
The answer has to be yes because if if you continue to trust yourself and be okay with things not going according to these master plans that you know we can map out super easily on a whiteboard. Don't necessarily translate into real life. The way that we think they will um.

35:42.38
wildremedies
Anthony.

35:46.89
Sarah Swain
Can you get there and if 10 years from now you were sovereign beyond any level that you ever thought you would um, achieve or experience like would that not be freaking worth it.

36:01.94
wildremedies
Um, yep, yep I Love that those a great grant very passionate I feel the same way and it's funny like when I look back at my life like I I think the point where I felt the most.

36:06.44
Sarah Swain
The.

36:18.90
wildremedies
Successful was when I had way less stuff back in 2014 I sold everything that I owned and I moved to Malaysia to go work for a company which obviously didn't last more than a couple of years because I hate working for people. But. Still a great experience. But I and I ended up nomading I don't know for about four and a half five years and so I lived in Europe I lived in Mexico I lived in the states I traveled all over the place and just got to have all of these really incredible experiences. And had time you know I had the laptop lifestyle which I still could have I mean with one of the businesses that I currently have now it does require me at this point in time to kind of be here a little bit more physically and I think also to just being trapped here in Canada for the past. Yeah that that that was the thing obviously that.

37:09.55
Sarah Swain
Also that yeah.

37:14.83
wildremedies
Um, kind of had me stuck for for a little bit but like but just not having stuff and so since I've moved back to Canada and I'm a little bit more situated and you know I have a home now and accumulating stuff that you know also has to do with the business because we have a consumer. Product business. It's like like it definitely feels more heavy and I'm like okay so I need I need to kind of get back to that and there was so much freedom in that too because hot tip for anybody in Canada listening to this and my gosh did I ever love taking advantage of this. But. If you are outside of the country for even a day over six months out of the year and you don't own it any property. That's the catch. You don't got to pay any tax so I was saving like 30 grand a year just by nomading. Yeah, it's amazing.

38:06.13
Sarah Swain
Oh my God I gonna tell my husband as soon as we're done this episode.

38:10.00
wildremedies
Ah, and so it's so great. But here's the thing it's like and now I'm struggling because you know I'm watching all the ways that you're creating sovereignty in your life which is absolutely amazing and I love that you have land and you know you've got the chickens and all the things and I feel very very called to do that as well. But I'm like well shit. Soon as I buy the property and do all the things now now I'm really stuck you know? Um, so it's like it's kind of a catch point at 22. It's like okay like do do I flee or do I stay and that's been this thing that I've been trying to wrap my head around you know over the past couple of years because

38:40.12
Sarah Swain
Yeah, um, yeah.

38:49.93
wildremedies
Sovereignty to me is being able to have control over like all the systems right? including our food and all of those things and for someone like myself. It's funny like with everything that's gone over gone down the past couple years like I used to identify as a liberal right? and now I'm just like I don't know.

38:55.29
Sarah Swain
Is it.

39:06.20
Sarah Swain
And.

39:08.76
wildremedies
What the fuck is going on like I'm just like been politically abandoned. Um you know up is down left is right like everything is just so crazy and it's just been this huge paradigm shift to see what's you know, kind of surfaced and I Guess. I Don't know wanting to have sovereignty and you know valuing entrepreneurship and all these things is now like a far right? ideology like I What I don't know where the fuck that came From. It's quite wild but it's interesting because.

39:40.89
Sarah Swain
Oh.

39:46.10
wildremedies
What I find sort of funny is you know for me climate change is an issue right? Like we're seeing it I don't know why this has become such a ah leftist issue I think. A lot of people along the spectrum are seeing that that this is a real thing and that there's been a lot of damage that's done to the planet. But I Love all the new information coming out that is showing like okay we can actually sequester a lot of the carbon that we're putting out into the environment by you know, regenerative farming. And by having land and like learning to feed ourselves in all of these things which I guess is a more quote unquote conservative thing to do is actually what could save us right? That's really like I mean there's so many daunting things that are happening in our world right now but you know.

40:30.22
Sarah Swain
Instance.

40:37.31
wildremedies
Climate change thing I think is you know it's fairly serious. But if we can all kind of come back to these again quote unquote conservative values of just like taking care of ourselves and our neighbors and like learning the garden and you know being more connected with with nature. And and ourselves and our communities like that that to me is is the way forward and what I think you need to understand.

40:57.77
Sarah Swain
Down.

41:03.10
Sarah Swain
I I agree and and it's interesting because I think people are starting to catch on to that game. That's being played now right? Where if you have these ideologies. Or these value systems in your Life. You are therefore a dangerously privileged conservative and you present a harm to society and that is ah a political game.

41:37.36
wildremedies
Are.

41:38.29
Sarah Swain
That's being played right now in order to discredit. Um, right-wing parties. Ah and to publicly defame conservatives so that people wouldn't dare associate themselves with what it means to have. You know, even just being in agreement with conservative policies. Um, this is a ah tactic that I'm glad so many people are waking up to um and I hope that more continued to do so because this was a kind of a ah. Big pivotal moment when the convoy happened right? and immediately it was labeled and and we know now from the emergency commission review that the narrative was formed by the liberal government. Prior to the truckers actually arriving in Ottawa, they already decided the angle that they were going to publicly run with informing society canadians about what this movement stood for so that public the general public who's tuning in from the mainstream media would would be. Ah, hesitant to or terrified to be seen as supporting in any way and the only reason for that is so that the liberal party wouldn't lose support by actually by by people actually turning their head and listening to what this group.

43:10.11
Sarah Swain
That converged in Ottawa actually had to say and and what they were actually taking a stand for so the goal is to make the right as gnarly as humanly possible in the eyes of the general public that you're like oh I don't want people to think that I'm that or I'd like that's not me I'm not a.

43:25.17
wildremedies
The.

43:29.61
Sarah Swain
I'm not a bad person I'm not a white supremacist I don't hate the environment I don't you know have an intolerance for marginalized communities like therefore I'm I Definitely not that so I got to stay over here and that's how right now the.

43:45.20
wildremedies
Um, he.

43:49.46
Sarah Swain
The left who is arguably destructive is all hell right now when it comes to personal sovereignty of any kind. Um, that's how they are succeeding at this is to make people fearful of being associated with right wing.

43:57.58
wildremedies
E.

44:07.00
wildremedies
He.

44:08.70
Sarah Swain
Policy and I agree with you that if we kind of all just lived our lives and wanted to be left alone and raised our families and you know secured our food supply how to garden in a couple chickens and you Know. Didn't have all of these carbon footprints from mass transportation of goods and all this plastic wrap and all of these things that are not helpful for the environment like why on Earth are we not doing that. Why is that not a a a.

44:37.90
wildremedies
Um.

44:45.90
Sarah Swain
Position that ah that ah a asumably left party would want to do if the goal actually was to protect the environment. Why would dent they why because it removes us from.

44:50.99
wildremedies
Are.

44:58.93
wildremedies
Um e.

45:03.74
Sarah Swain
Their systems too much and that's the name of the game. So the more people that are recognizing that realizing that like what do you mean? The carbon tax is going to fix the environment.

45:06.74
wildremedies
Um, a.

45:18.31
Sarah Swain
But you're not going to have any type of government program that teaches people how to grow a garden. These are the questions that peoples people are asking now like a hold on a second here. Why this doesn't make any sense like.

45:21.82
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

45:34.10
Sarah Swain
There was ah a country I can't remember where where it was my husband was telling me about it the other day they had ah 1 of their municipalities did like a pilot program for chickens and they surveyed their their community and said we're going to try this and you know. Hands up if you want to take part in this. We'll pay for your chickens. Everyone gets 3 chickens or something like that you get a little coop and the municipality paid for this and can't remember how many people in the community got the chickens in the coop but the actual data that they had on um, like waste elimination.

46:10.61
wildremedies
Um e.

46:10.78
Sarah Swain
Um, and just like empowerment of the community and the way that people were supporting one another like everything shifted just by having a couple chickens in everyone's backyards right? like all of a sudden like narratives started shifting thought process started shifting.

46:20.16
wildremedies
Um, crazy.

46:28.76
Sarah Swain
Um, to like what else can we do here that is within our control that we don't need the government to come up with these policies on how we're going to quote unquote save the world ah from imploding on itself which is going to do on its own regardless like the fact that.

46:37.74
wildremedies
E.

46:47.10
Sarah Swain
Us humans think that we can stop the world from going through its own bloody cycle is laughable to me. Um our carbon footprint does not help by any means but it's going to happen eventually. However, many hundreds or thousands of years like the world will do what it's going to do regardless of what humans or governments.

46:50.43
wildremedies
Are the.

47:07.75
Sarah Swain
Um, but this is where um Sovereignty is what breaks their system. That's why they don't want us to have it the less we need them the less relevant they become the less things that they need to save us from the less groups of people that they need to save us from.

47:13.59
wildremedies
He.

47:24.94
Sarah Swain
Um, so it's it's so important on the political front for people to be really really discerning on what the narrative is for political parties versus what the policies actually are for the political parties like look beneath the headlines look at what these bills actually say look at what they represent. Listen to the debates listen to what the the parties are actually saying to 1 another and if people that are listening have never done that before I can promise you you're going to be gobsmacked at what you witness um from the parties that you believed to be the good guys.

48:03.52
wildremedies
Um, he.

48:04.44
Sarah Swain
And that's the the craziest thing right now is like we have politically homeless people such as yourself, you're like I've never identified as a conservative a day of my life like what but like my own party has like completely gone mad with policies So like where do I live? um.

48:09.31
wildremedies
E.

48:20.82
Sarah Swain
And it's it's when I survey my community I'm like where'd y'all come from on the political spectrum right? because I am someone who has always very much been an advocate for more right wing policy and I say that very publicly these days because we need to have open dialogue about this and.

48:33.97
wildremedies
Um, and then.

48:38.55
Sarah Swain
When I do these surveys it is majority former and Ndp supporters or former liberal supporters that are now like what the hell is going on on the political playing field because I feel like they've been duped. They feel like they've been roped in to support these parties who are now. Arguably causing our country a significant amount of harm all under the guise of doing the right thing for the greater good. Um, so it's it's it's inspiring for me to see that more people are paying attention politically and that more people are actually looking into policy and asking ourselves like.

49:07.31
wildremedies
E.

49:15.65
Sarah Swain
Is this true. What the media's saying about this is this true that the conservatives are are this bad like is it true that this you know carbon tax is is going to keep the world alive for another billion years if if we you know pay more at the gas pumps like we just got to start asking better questions. And be open to changing our minds. Sometimes when we're presented with new information.

49:37.43
wildremedies
Um, absolutely I mean my mind has been changed many many times over the past few years

49:45.29
Sarah Swain
Yeah.

49:47.77
wildremedies
You know I think at one point well man I remember I don't know if it was like my late 20 s or early 30 s and I was watching all of you know the Leonardo Dicaprio documentaries and the doom and all this stuff I was 1000% we need to be eating crickets you know like that.

49:58.94
Sarah Swain
I.

50:06.51
wildremedies
Definitely need to be doing that and you know I went vegetarian and I was just like so shitty to all my friends who ate meat and all of these things and it was just you know so I get it. It's almost like kind of people have to go through like these stages um to kind of be able to to see the whole picture and like.

50:20.00
Sarah Swain
Yes.

50:25.22
wildremedies
It's okay to change your mind. It's okay to change your mind and for anybody who's listening who you know doesn't follow Sarah on social media I highly highly recommend it because your your expertise in politics is just.

50:27.29
Sarah Swain
Yes.

50:44.59
wildremedies
And my God like it's a breath of fresh air. That's one of the reasons that you know I connected with you and found you during the pandemic is because you actually know what the fuck is going on like most of us have no idea how politics work and many of us feel just so.

50:57.45
Sarah Swain
I mean.

51:02.10
wildremedies
Disempowered and you know we threw our hands up in the air and it's like well fuck. We can't do anything about it Anyway, they're just going to do what they're going to do and we feel totally disempowered but you gave us like so many tools like there was like a movement that you created you know we were writing letters to you know? um.

51:14.71
Sarah Swain
Yeah.

51:20.44
wildremedies
Like our mla is in all of these people and they they're kind of listening you know, like like it's slow, but we're seeing it now right? like the the narrative is changing. There's a lot more pushback and if people just stay silent and do nothing. Nothing's going.

51:28.17
Sarah Swain
Yeah.

51:38.39
wildremedies
Nothing's going to change.

51:41.63
Sarah Swain
It's true and this has been really? Um I don't know I don't even know what the word is it's it's left me with my jaw on the floor because I never in 1000000 years thought that I would see canadians pay. Any attention to politics let alone the level that people are getting involved in now and this stems back to like dinners with my family and my parents my dad specifically.

52:03.92
wildremedies
Are.

52:17.30
Sarah Swain
Always ranting about politics and ranting about how the media's not telling the whole truth and they're always coming after the conservatives and so I was always kind of ah very much aware of that from a very young age that there's definitely a slant.

52:19.50
wildremedies
Um, you think.

52:30.42
wildremedies
You.

52:33.28
Sarah Swain
Going on when it comes to how things are broadcasted and it's it's now just completely so far slanted. It's completely out of control. Um, but I've always been politically keen and that's you know with thanks to my parents for always just having open political discussions in our house so I was just kind of raised that way.

52:37.93
wildremedies
Are you.

52:49.66
wildremedies
Are.

52:52.88
Sarah Swain
But always very very fearful of sharing my political views with people because year over year Are you identified anything remotely close to conservative like you're publicly left out to like socially hang pretty much you know what. There was no dialogue allowed about It. You're just automatically labeled as something really bad and there was no room for Conversation. So I I Never I knew that I could never defend myself so I just kind of pretended like I was not conservative and um, what's happened now because.

53:15.56
wildremedies
Um, me.

53:29.89
Sarah Swain
Ah, you know our our parliamentary system is complex arguably archaic and it's it's complicated for people to follow along if you've never paid any attention before and let's go back to the education system for the seventeenth time this conversation and in this conversation.

53:44.36
wildremedies
Are.

53:49.45
Sarah Swain
We had half a credit in civics in Canada in in most places. Of course we don't know what the hell is going on in our political system like why would the average canadian understand how parliament works so I I kind of um, you know I when I started using my voice. Throughout the pandemic because I literally couldn't my the inside of my body hurt that I was wanting to speak so bad and I eventually made the decision in um, early summer of 2021 to start, you know, kind of opening the can of worms fully embracing the fact that I was probably going to lose everything. Um, as a result of doing so but it it wasn't until the convoy that I was like it was the ah invocation of the emergency act and people are like what does this mean? what does this mean? what does this mean and and there was all this panic out there right? So I'm like okay well here's what it means and I started to.

54:32.93
wildremedies
Are.

54:44.48
Sarah Swain
Share about that on my feed and all of a sudden I had like ah a huge group of people showing up to understand like what what is going on right now in our in our federal government I'm like wow people are actually wanting this information. So I I did this ah like live. Broadcast does anyone want to watch the Cpc's motion to remove mandates because a Cpc conservative party Canada put a motion before the house to remove federal mandates and this was as a result of the convoy and the pressure that was being put on and. People are like what is emotion like what does this mean so I'm like all right, let's I'll just open up a Zoom line. We can all watch together I had over five hundred people sign up to watch that Zoom and my head's going like what on earth like I've never been able to have a conversation about politics with anyone other than my close family my entire life.

55:33.26
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

55:38.53
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

55:39.80
Sarah Swain
I have over five hundred strangers on a Zoom call with me watching a vote for emotion. So I started I just kept going like people want to know how this works so I just started sharing all of my random political knowledge and that also compelled me to like dig even deeper into my own level of understanding about our our parliamentary system. And that's just sparked a movement. It. It just happens so naturally that people are like oh my god like democracy that means I'm in charge. It's like yes, that's exactly what that means it means we have a lot of work to do. Um.

56:03.32
wildremedies
Um, yeah, and.

56:13.94
Sarah Swain
So yeah, it's It's been amazing to see how many people have been so activated and um it wasn't something that I had any desire to you know all of a sudden brand myself as like the Canadian political aficionado that everyone now wants on there. Podcasts talk about politics I was like what is happening right now. Oh My God like I did not sign up for this. But I guess someone's got to you know do this work right now. So that people can um you know start to activate themselves and recognize the power that they have um.

56:48.14
Sarah Swain
So it's amazing to see now you know almost a year later how many people are just involved and I had people messaging me from Ontario because Ontario had their municipal elections and. Like 3 people that messaged me saying I'm running and I'm like whoa like that is just yeah, that was just the cool. So I'm like following their accounts I'm like oh my god like they're in their debates tonight like it was just the I so I had this.

57:09.85
wildremedies
Um, wow.

57:20.84
Sarah Swain
This very kind of like full circle moment of like knowing that I did what I set out to do and it feels like I've passed the torch now like to the rest of the people who have now learned at least to a certain.

57:30.33
wildremedies
Are a.

57:36.84
Sarah Swain
Certain point of like what does this all mean and and what does that mean for me as a person who lives within Canada um, and that said that excites me that gives me a lot of hope um that so many people were willing to. You know face off with their own political ignorance because that's what we were dealing with on mass scale in Canada was mass mass mass political ignorance and election after election I'm just sitting there shaking my head I'm like we're so screwed. Oh my god Trudeau's back in power again. We are so screwed.

57:58.42
wildremedies
Um, oh guilty like yeah.

58:07.13
wildremedies
Um, yeah, shall.

58:12.68
Sarah Swain
And you know it's it's yeah, it gives me a lot of hope because people are empowered people are taking control people are understanding the power that they do have within our political structure and I know there's a lot of dialogue out there that ah you know so it's left left wing right? Wing all the same bird or. Ah, elections are ragugged or there's no point because my vote doesn't matter and I've had to really that's been like an uphill battle to to face over the last year as I've been a ah voice in the political scene accidentally um, but but I think more people are recognizing that like well. Duh like if we all do that if we all keep our our hands off the wheel entirely like that is how this beast has grown. This is how our government has become so freaking enormous. Um, you know Trudeau's touting all of the new jobs that they've created well 97% of them are federal government jobs.

58:54.65
wildremedies
He.

59:07.50
wildremedies
Um, chooses that we're paying for.

59:09.40
Sarah Swain
Like we got to talk I know like we got to talk about how fast this government is growing if we don't intervene so taking our hands off the political scene. Um not paying attention in my opinion is not the answer I don't believe that.

59:17.70
wildremedies
Um.

59:27.99
Sarah Swain
It's either sovereignty or political activation and not both I think it has to be both I think that we have to be as individually sovereign as humanly possible and do whatever means necessary in order to instill that in our lives and and bolster our families and our households. Our life experience our our finances our food supply our healthcare our overall health all of that like that's our responsibility and we also got to make sure that we have eyeballs on these motherfuckers in our federal government all parties not just the left The Cpc is very much included in this as well.

59:53.91
wildremedies
Are.

01:00:01.30
wildremedies
Um, yeah.

01:00:07.43
Sarah Swain
Because that's the other warning I put out be like okay guys. So if the Cpc gets in and all of a sudden paulevv is the prime minister of Canada you cannot tell me that you're all of a sudden just going to go back to your life because now all of a sudden you're safe. That's not how this works week.

01:00:19.10
wildremedies
Um, you know that's how we got here in the first place. Um.

01:00:24.91
Sarah Swain
We crawl up the conservative Buts just as much as we did the liberals and that's how we start to create a new system on the on the political front is making sure that it doesn't matter who's empowered as matter what party has the reins we are on them because they work.

01:00:30.50
wildremedies
Um, this is.

01:00:37.53
wildremedies
Um, yeah, absolutely yeah, and yeah, remember people like these are public servants. These individuals are supposed to work for us. Not the other way around.

01:00:43.36
Sarah Swain
For us.

01:00:55.60
Sarah Swain
Um.

01:00:55.98
wildremedies
And so it is just time to wake up but we got to start doing things another way. Oh my gosh Just I'm going to pause one second because my laptop is about to die. Let me grab my um.

01:01:04.00
Sarah Swain
Yep, agreed.

01:01:15.10
wildremedies
Chord and then we'll finish up being one second sorry.

01:01:41.90
wildremedies
This thing was fully charged when we started. It is.

01:01:48.53
Sarah Swain
It's the frequency.

01:01:53.78
wildremedies
Okay, we'll just edit that part out.

01:02:00.23
wildremedies
Well I feel inspired to take action for anybody who is listening and wants to be part of this movement or wants to learn about what they can do to exit.

01:02:08.91
Sarah Swain
Yay.

01:02:18.50
wildremedies
Systems How can they learn? How can they connect with you. What amazing things are you offering for folks these days.

01:02:26.43
Sarah Swain
Oh well, thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about the things. Um that I'm doing I really appreciate that. Best place to find me is my Instagram Account that's where you can figure out if you like me or not probably within 24 hours or so and you can find me at I am Sarah Swain and um my website is sarahswain dot ca and yeah, this is basically what I do I I help people understand um how to create more choice in their lives by creating new streams of income and. I I rant a lot on my Instagram about politics. So you're bound to learn something there too or maybe just a different perspective than maybe um, you're used to seeing on social media since folks like me kind of tend to get buried pretty easily in the algorithms.

01:03:17.30
wildremedies
M.

01:03:20.17
Sarah Swain
Um, so I like that you said that it's ah it's a refreshing space for you because my dialogue is always very real. Um, it's It's always from my heart. It's never for any intention other than speaking my truth and hoping a God it lands in. The ears of the people that need to hear it whether it's on the political front or the entrepreneurial front or the freedom family front. Um, it's been a blessing to be a voice in all of this.. There's definitely some curses with it for sure.

01:03:56.70
wildremedies
Um, me.

01:03:57.17
Sarah Swain
Um, but overall Net positive and just really grateful that um people like being in myspace and um, just kind of hearing a ah different take on things than what is typically in our in our mainstream Systems. So I'm kind of the counter system. But I guess is how you could probably summarize me is it's like okay this is what's happening over here. This is being broadcasted and I'm going to give you my point of view on it. Um, but Sovereignty is is it. That's everything I do stems from that place and um, that's a result of me you know. Going through my own awakening over the last couple of years and and so literally stripping away anything that is not even remotely close to being authentically me um, and rooting myself into my values system which are freedom and integrity. Um, I'm rooted in those so everything that I create is from that place and um, that's what I support people in doing for themselves too and the last thing we've got going on the most flipping craziest Roller coaster ride ever is our book called the sovereign.

01:05:10.70
wildremedies
Are.

01:05:13.70
Sarah Swain
And this was 14 beautiful humans across Canada that said, yes to a publishing project. Um that I thought of back in fall of Tony 21 when it felt like the world was closing in on me here in Canada and um, the. Freaking book right now as we're recording this is literally in the mail system all throughout Canada right now. So it's it's gone to print and we just did ah a crazy pre-order campaign and never sold so many books in my entire life and I say this as a publisher. Um, so it's exciting to know how far these stories are going to reach and um, how important the journey to personal freedom is and how different those journeys are from 1 person to the next. Um.

01:05:59.29
wildremedies
Are.

01:06:08.29
Sarah Swain
So these stories are really really impactful. They're there. We we didn't know each other before all of this that yet we all ended up in this book together and our worlds collided as a result of these last couple of years but the paths that each of us walked in order to. Fully embody what it means to be sovereign so different from 1 author to the next so that is literally going to be arriving on my doorstep any day now. Um, so if people missed the opportunity to order that it will be up on my website in the future for for sale there and.

01:06:29.30
wildremedies
Are.

01:06:45.82
Sarah Swain
We will be on Amazon in January for folks that prefer not to pay $3000 in shipping here in Canada which I totally understand. but um but yeah that's what's going on in my world.

01:06:49.79
wildremedies
Yes.

01:06:56.13
wildremedies
Amazing. Well I mean just much gratitude from me to you because yeah I don't know I don't know what I would have done without these brave messages that you put out the past. You know I'm not I'm not sure at what time you know in this process that I found you but I'm glad I did because yeah you brought you brought sanity to me, you brought sanity to a lot of people in in my community and.

01:07:15.36
Sarah Swain
A for.

01:07:30.97
wildremedies
And just a feeling of empowerment and and realizing like hey K Yes, we know things need to change. It feels like we don't know how but now we kind of have some tools and we are seeing progress so it's it's empowering and that.

01:07:43.60
Sarah Swain
Ah.

01:07:49.80
wildremedies
Ties into this aspect of sovereignty that you know I don't know I feel like we all need to move towards. So thank you, thank you so much and thank you so much for being here today. All right? Thanks Sarah.

01:07:59.80
Sarah Swain
It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me.



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